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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 11th, 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 11th, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Anti-piracy day? No thanks http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=3405 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BS Alliance offers R100 000 to catch software pirates &#183; Neverness</title>
		<link>http://www.tectonic.co.za/2008/10/anti-piracy-day-no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-395652</link>
		<dc:creator>BS Alliance offers R100 000 to catch software pirates &#183; Neverness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what they (or at least the sub writing the headline) thinks of the idea. Tectonic calls the claims sweeping and presumptive. The mybroadband forum discussion isn&#8217;t very sympathetic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what they (or at least the sub writing the headline) thinks of the idea. Tectonic calls the claims sweeping and presumptive. The mybroadband forum discussion isn&#8217;t very sympathetic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moerdyk</title>
		<link>http://www.tectonic.co.za/2008/10/anti-piracy-day-no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-390250</link>
		<dc:creator>Moerdyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make it national beer day.....well everyday is national beer day lol. I use Linux on desktop and server and i will go and get another cold one now.Ciao!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make it national beer day&#8230;..well everyday is national beer day lol. I use Linux on desktop and server and i will go and get another cold one now.Ciao!</p>
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		<title>By: Nico de Wet</title>
		<link>http://www.tectonic.co.za/2008/10/anti-piracy-day-no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-388587</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico de Wet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see the article leveraging anti-piracy day &amp; the BSA to promote FOSS. This should be done more often in my mind, clearly not as the primary plus point for FOSS, but it does matter, knowing that the BSA can&#039;t come after you or your business while you are happily running on say Ubuntu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see the article leveraging anti-piracy day &amp; the BSA to promote FOSS. This should be done more often in my mind, clearly not as the primary plus point for FOSS, but it does matter, knowing that the BSA can&#8217;t come after you or your business while you are happily running on say Ubuntu.</p>
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		<title>By: The Blog From Hell &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aunti who is a pirate ?</title>
		<link>http://www.tectonic.co.za/2008/10/anti-piracy-day-no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-388333</link>
		<dc:creator>The Blog From Hell &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aunti who is a pirate ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of a hallmark anti-holiday (if you&#8217;ll excuse the anti-pun). Tectonic has a very well written article on just how much the marketing blurb by the BSA in South Africa ignores (short version: all the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of a hallmark anti-holiday (if you&#8217;ll excuse the anti-pun). Tectonic has a very well written article on just how much the marketing blurb by the BSA in South Africa ignores (short version: all the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ewald</title>
		<link>http://www.tectonic.co.za/2008/10/anti-piracy-day-no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-387939</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If MS and all the others really had protected their software as they predict, they had had no chance to become such big.
I think more than half of Windows and related software are illegal copies, but that is for the fortune of them. 
If people would not be able to copy the software illegal, they would try to find another way, and that would clearly lead to FOSS, 
because this software can be copy and used legally and very easily.
Now the Monopolies shout &quot;catch the pirate&quot;, but this stupid pirate made them so big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If MS and all the others really had protected their software as they predict, they had had no chance to become such big.<br />
I think more than half of Windows and related software are illegal copies, but that is for the fortune of them.<br />
If people would not be able to copy the software illegal, they would try to find another way, and that would clearly lead to FOSS,<br />
because this software can be copy and used legally and very easily.<br />
Now the Monopolies shout &#8220;catch the pirate&#8221;, but this stupid pirate made them so big.</p>
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		<title>By: Anti-piracy day? No thanks &#124; Pinoy Hackers</title>
		<link>http://www.tectonic.co.za/2008/10/anti-piracy-day-no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-387792</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti-piracy day? No thanks &#124; Pinoy Hackers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ?pirate? is likely to be a whole lot less than the assumed R10 000. The same is true of software. READ MORE        Posted in Tips &amp; Tutorial &#124;     Leave a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dwayne Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dwayne Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only R2,8 billion!  Doesn&#039;t South African already spend about R20 billion on software from these companies?  Call it a tithe then or true Corporate Social Responsibility.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, the ability to pirate certainly cuts into the number of FOSS users.

But I would love to know how they arrive at that number, which itself is miraculously close to  the one they made (up) for Australia.  Since its really economic guesswork and I guess if they want to dabble in economics we have to ask what is the opportunity cost.  Is it really a problem that South African doesn&#039;t pay R2,8 billion when the companies that copy illegally generate say R200 billion for the economy (I made that number up but at least I&#039;m honest enough to admit it).

Its the questions that aren&#039;t being asked that I think bother me.  The questions like how much does our government spend on proprietary IT each year. I believe it easily rivals that first number.  Plus this romantic figure that is touted is that money for South Africa or for the members of the BSA.  Does it just create obedient, everything compliant, box droppers or does it create a vibrant innovative software industry that can export knowledge and products.

Since others can make up numbers and quote research that they funded I think I&#039;ll just make up my own and see how it goes:

The BSA reports that illegal software is installed on 34% of South African computers.  Experts from the DTI report that recent studies show that if only 10% of these used Free and Open Source software that it would result in a growth industry that would contribute 5,531 jobs over the next 3 years and would see a growth in the software service industry to the tune of R6,3 billion.  These figures only account for local revenues to companies but also have a positive impact on revenue collection for the state as they involve no repatriation of funds to overseas software supplier which are estimated at over R1 billion (this figure is disputed and may be much higher).  Coupled with the ability of these service companies to become competitive global players the DTI estimates the positive increase of an estimated R20 billion per year over the next 10 years.  The message is clear using Free Software will grow our economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only R2,8 billion!  Doesn&#8217;t South African already spend about R20 billion on software from these companies?  Call it a tithe then or true Corporate Social Responsibility.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, the ability to pirate certainly cuts into the number of FOSS users.</p>
<p>But I would love to know how they arrive at that number, which itself is miraculously close to  the one they made (up) for Australia.  Since its really economic guesswork and I guess if they want to dabble in economics we have to ask what is the opportunity cost.  Is it really a problem that South African doesn&#8217;t pay R2,8 billion when the companies that copy illegally generate say R200 billion for the economy (I made that number up but at least I&#8217;m honest enough to admit it).</p>
<p>Its the questions that aren&#8217;t being asked that I think bother me.  The questions like how much does our government spend on proprietary IT each year. I believe it easily rivals that first number.  Plus this romantic figure that is touted is that money for South Africa or for the members of the BSA.  Does it just create obedient, everything compliant, box droppers or does it create a vibrant innovative software industry that can export knowledge and products.</p>
<p>Since others can make up numbers and quote research that they funded I think I&#8217;ll just make up my own and see how it goes:</p>
<p>The BSA reports that illegal software is installed on 34% of South African computers.  Experts from the DTI report that recent studies show that if only 10% of these used Free and Open Source software that it would result in a growth industry that would contribute 5,531 jobs over the next 3 years and would see a growth in the software service industry to the tune of R6,3 billion.  These figures only account for local revenues to companies but also have a positive impact on revenue collection for the state as they involve no repatriation of funds to overseas software supplier which are estimated at over R1 billion (this figure is disputed and may be much higher).  Coupled with the ability of these service companies to become competitive global players the DTI estimates the positive increase of an estimated R20 billion per year over the next 10 years.  The message is clear using Free Software will grow our economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These figures are concocted out of the blue, and have very little relevance to them.

I put it to you: these companies would not be in the situation they are today is they did not create this scenario, by turning a blind-eye in the early days in order to corner a dominant market-share

from:
http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/dodgy-digits-behind-the-war-on-piracy.ars

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When someone torrents a $12 album that they would have otherwise purchased, the record industry loses $12, to be sure. But that doesn&#039;t mean that $12 has magically vanished from the economy. On the contrary: someone has gotten the value of the album and still has $12 to spend somewhere else.

In economic jargon, charging anything for pure IP—which has a marginal cost approaching zero once it has been produced—creates a deadweight economic loss, at least in static terms. The actual net loss of IP infringement is an allocative loss that only appears in a dynamic analysis. Simply put, when people pirate IP, the market is not accurately signaling how highly people value the effort that was put into creating it, which leads to underproduction of new IP. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These figures are concocted out of the blue, and have very little relevance to them.</p>
<p>I put it to you: these companies would not be in the situation they are today is they did not create this scenario, by turning a blind-eye in the early days in order to corner a dominant market-share</p>
<p>from:<br />
<a href="http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/dodgy-digits-behind-the-war-on-piracy.ars" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/dodgy-digits-behind-the-war-on-piracy.ars</a></p>
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When someone torrents a $12 album that they would have otherwise purchased, the record industry loses $12, to be sure. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that $12 has magically vanished from the economy. On the contrary: someone has gotten the value of the album and still has $12 to spend somewhere else.</p>
<p>In economic jargon, charging anything for pure IP—which has a marginal cost approaching zero once it has been produced—creates a deadweight economic loss, at least in static terms. The actual net loss of IP infringement is an allocative loss that only appears in a dynamic analysis. Simply put, when people pirate IP, the market is not accurately signaling how highly people value the effort that was put into creating it, which leads to underproduction of new IP.<br />
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://www.tectonic.co.za/2008/10/anti-piracy-day-no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-387430</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link fail! My blog rant is actually at http://tinyurl.com/5rt664 - whoops :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link fail! My blog rant is actually at <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5rt664" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5rt664</a> &#8211; whoops <img src='http://www.tectonic.co.za/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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